2017-04-15: Maps of Meaning #8

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  • Identity

    • “you must have an identity that can withstand the most profound doubts in your life with equivalent force”
      “part of Peterson’s goal is to protect your identity against ideological possession”

      • Identity at a macro and micro level; this applies for cultures in society, as well as for individuals

    • “An identity that isn’t rooted in the archetypes leaves you incomplete”

      • Like the tiered meaning map slide - a pyramid - the archetype is the pyramid pointing to the ideal

  • Protecting against ideological possession

    • inception

    • Listen to different perspectives

    • Challenge perspectives

    • Ask why 5 times

  • Shallow vs depth

    • Shallow individuals attach to group for identity

    • Shallow individuals and shallow groups do not like challenge as that screws their order structure and leaves them in chaos with no shield

    • Knowing why you do your traditions with many layers of questioning is your shield against doubts

  • Vices and nourishment

    • In trepidation we seek nourishment

    • However will often seek it in ephemeral vices over satiation sources

    • Requires a lot of introspection to distinguish what it is exactly we are using this vice to satisfy

  • “once you have ascended your parents security you are an adult”

  • Teenagers explore the unknown (scary movies, risky escapades) while they have some strength for individuality to challenge and some parental protective to recover

    • Coming of age rituals

  • Excuses for exploration

    • Just a kid

    • Is my birthday

    • Sorry, I’m new here

  • Fire, lucy movie ending, theme of advanced civilianisation going back in time to instil consciousness into early being - very common theme, speculation as to why

    • Humans are drawn to cyclic story

    • ?We are tapping into an interdimensional energy?

    • Micro Parental teacher relationship applied to macro civilization level

  • Happiness, extraversion and neuroticism

    • Machines verse humans and motivation

    • Aware of biological biases, consider them, do not ignore or disparage them

  • The sexes and gender roles

    • Situation

      • Women not needing men

      • Men going their own way

      • Women career over kids

      • Men leaving uni

    • Postulations

      • Women want control over their body

        • Unnecessary c-sections

        • Desire for virgin ideal

      • Women view men as risk they don’t need, go to sperm bank instead

      • Men cannot get their own kids by themself unlike above example

      • Children raised by single mothers end up worse off, abuse, and disorders

      • Women desire men with degree and more money desired

        • Men earn more money, but no longer get degrees

        • Women insist on getting degrees that pay less or nothing

      • Divorce sucks, and screws men over big time now

  • Mary imagery

    • Baby held to heavens

    • Children grounded on chaotic earth with heavenly ideal

    • Man is grounded to his evil nature and the devil he has tamed keeps him afloat in the heavenly realm